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	<title>Comments on: The Cost Of Femininity</title>
	<link>http://www.feministsdontbakebread.com/2008/01/08/the-cost-of-femininity/</link>
	<description>Neither do they knit. Apparently.</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Purtek</title>
		<link>http://www.feministsdontbakebread.com/2008/01/08/the-cost-of-femininity/#comment-1400</link>
		<dc:creator>Purtek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Betacandy--damn, that last story is hilarious. Painful, but hilarious.

On the "rules for being female" front, the conversation I most hate (though this kind of contradicts thinking what Betacandy said was hilarious, but I know she was being tongue-in-cheek) is the one that says that it's only okay for me to &lt;i&gt;break&lt;/i&gt; those rules because I'm young and relatively attractive (I skip the hair straightening thing, because in my case it's a lost cause, but I make it work). The dialogue goes that I'll change my mind about make-up when I start to get all wrinkly and whatever. I hate the assumption that I'm okay (pseudo-intellectual bitch that I am) making a point about opting out of the time, energy, money and comfort required to sustain beauty standards only if it comes at no &lt;i&gt;actual&lt;/i&gt; personal cost.

Also, there's something that seriously squicks me out about a customer making note of your heels. I'm sorry if this adds "ew" to your offense, but it's like there's a layer of it being not just presumptuous, but also reminding me that when you're talking about geeky techy stuff, he's getting a certain image of you in his head, and much of it has nothing to do with the content of your conversation. It seems like a slight, subtle version of "So...what are you wearing?"

Which...ick.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Betacandy&#8211;damn, that last story is hilarious. Painful, but hilarious.</p>
<p>On the &#8220;rules for being female&#8221; front, the conversation I most hate (though this kind of contradicts thinking what Betacandy said was hilarious, but I know she was being tongue-in-cheek) is the one that says that it&#8217;s only okay for me to <i>break</i> those rules because I&#8217;m young and relatively attractive (I skip the hair straightening thing, because in my case it&#8217;s a lost cause, but I make it work). The dialogue goes that I&#8217;ll change my mind about make-up when I start to get all wrinkly and whatever. I hate the assumption that I&#8217;m okay (pseudo-intellectual bitch that I am) making a point about opting out of the time, energy, money and comfort required to sustain beauty standards only if it comes at no <i>actual</i> personal cost.</p>
<p>Also, there&#8217;s something that seriously squicks me out about a customer making note of your heels. I&#8217;m sorry if this adds &#8220;ew&#8221; to your offense, but it&#8217;s like there&#8217;s a layer of it being not just presumptuous, but also reminding me that when you&#8217;re talking about geeky techy stuff, he&#8217;s getting a certain image of you in his head, and much of it has nothing to do with the content of your conversation. It seems like a slight, subtle version of &#8220;So&#8230;what are you wearing?&#8221;</p>
<p>Which&#8230;ick.</p>
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		<title>By: BetaCandy</title>
		<link>http://www.feministsdontbakebread.com/2008/01/08/the-cost-of-femininity/#comment-1399</link>
		<dc:creator>BetaCandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 07:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.feministsdontbakebread.com/2008/01/08/the-cost-of-femininity/#comment-1399</guid>
		<description>No kidding! I had a comment on my site the other day where this person said she was 17 and would rather be a MAN than a stuck-up pseudo intellectual bitch like us. All I could think was, "Well, come back when you're 34 and let me know how you feel."
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No kidding! I had a comment on my site the other day where this person said she was 17 and would rather be a MAN than a stuck-up pseudo intellectual bitch like us. All I could think was, &#8220;Well, come back when you&#8217;re 34 and let me know how you feel.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Melle</title>
		<link>http://www.feministsdontbakebread.com/2008/01/08/the-cost-of-femininity/#comment-1398</link>
		<dc:creator>Melle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.feministsdontbakebread.com/2008/01/08/the-cost-of-femininity/#comment-1398</guid>
		<description>&lt;em&gt;"Oh, wait - everyone's full of shit. Again."&lt;/em&gt;

That's about the size of it, yeah. Now if only we could get that through to people, and make them understand that this isn't just some High-Brow Feminist Theory&#8482;, that this actually really fucks up real people. And while I'm wishing, I'd like a pony. :/
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Oh, wait - everyone&#8217;s full of shit. Again.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s about the size of it, yeah. Now if only we could get that through to people, and make them understand that this isn&#8217;t just some High-Brow Feminist Theory&trade;, that this actually really fucks up real people. And while I&#8217;m wishing, I&#8217;d like a pony. :/</p>
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		<title>By: BetaCandy</title>
		<link>http://www.feministsdontbakebread.com/2008/01/08/the-cost-of-femininity/#comment-1397</link>
		<dc:creator>BetaCandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.feministsdontbakebread.com/2008/01/08/the-cost-of-femininity/#comment-1397</guid>
		<description>Same here. I mean, people were telling me flat out there was something wrong with me that I didn't like to shop, did like computers (this is early 90's, back before girl geeks were chic), didn't want a man to pay on a date (how rude of me! how offensive!) and why on earth would a woman not want to shave all the time? Next I'd be refusing to wash!

I did think something was wrong with me, and I thought it came from my abusive father. But after I got away from him and had time to really sort myself out, I still didn't like pink, and only then did I realize, "Oh, wait - everyone's full of shit. Again."
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same here. I mean, people were telling me flat out there was something wrong with me that I didn&#8217;t like to shop, did like computers (this is early 90&#8217;s, back before girl geeks were chic), didn&#8217;t want a man to pay on a date (how rude of me! how offensive!) and why on earth would a woman not want to shave all the time? Next I&#8217;d be refusing to wash!</p>
<p>I did think something was wrong with me, and I thought it came from my abusive father. But after I got away from him and had time to really sort myself out, I still didn&#8217;t like pink, and only then did I realize, &#8220;Oh, wait - everyone&#8217;s full of shit. Again.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Melle</title>
		<link>http://www.feministsdontbakebread.com/2008/01/08/the-cost-of-femininity/#comment-1396</link>
		<dc:creator>Melle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.feministsdontbakebread.com/2008/01/08/the-cost-of-femininity/#comment-1396</guid>
		<description>Oh, totally! I mean, obviously, we're just special cases, "broken" as woman, really.

I mean that jokingly, but also kind of seriously -- I've had a lot of gender issues in past (non-related to the genderqueerness) because I'd internalised so much of the "Women are X, Y, Z, men are A, B, C," and I fell/fall on the male side of that so often.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, totally! I mean, obviously, we&#8217;re just special cases, &#8220;broken&#8221; as woman, really.</p>
<p>I mean that jokingly, but also kind of seriously &#8212; I&#8217;ve had a lot of gender issues in past (non-related to the genderqueerness) because I&#8217;d internalised so much of the &#8220;Women are X, Y, Z, men are A, B, C,&#8221; and I fell/fall on the male side of that so often.</p>
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		<title>By: BetaCandy</title>
		<link>http://www.feministsdontbakebread.com/2008/01/08/the-cost-of-femininity/#comment-1395</link>
		<dc:creator>BetaCandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.feministsdontbakebread.com/2008/01/08/the-cost-of-femininity/#comment-1395</guid>
		<description>Can I just give you a hell yeah on that? I fail on almost every count you mentioned (hair is currently straightened, but now that I've found someone who can make my natural curls not look like a giant frizzball, I'm going back). And I'm white. But the rest - it can't be that gender stereotypes are a joke. There's clearly something wrong with me. ;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I just give you a hell yeah on that? I fail on almost every count you mentioned (hair is currently straightened, but now that I&#8217;ve found someone who can make my natural curls not look like a giant frizzball, I&#8217;m going back). And I&#8217;m white. But the rest - it can&#8217;t be that gender stereotypes are a joke. There&#8217;s clearly something wrong with me. ;)</p>
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