Comments on: Sincerely - What About The Men? http://www.feministsdontbakebread.com/2007/03/08/sincerely-what-about-the-men/ Neither do they knit. Apparently. Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:34:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Hector Gonzalez http://www.feministsdontbakebread.com/2007/03/08/sincerely-what-about-the-men/#comment-521 Hector Gonzalez Thu, 05 Apr 2007 05:43:29 +0000 http://www.feministsdontbakebread.com/2007/03/08/sincerely-what-about-the-men/#comment-521 Thank you for acknowledging the problem with sitcoms. In my office the doors of every female director, after an woman's only networking meeting placed the following signs "Behind every successful man is a surprised woman". The pointing out of this as inappropriate was met with the female boss of our office saying- if you don't like it you can leave. My male friend at Ernst & Young wanted to bring a female client to a company sanctioned women's only event where they were treated to a fashion boutique and spa treatements. The client was welcome, my friend was informed he was not. From education to health care the littany of anti-male, sexist exclusionary practices are in dire need of being addressed. Thank you for your time. Thank you for acknowledging the problem with sitcoms. In my office the doors of every female director, after an woman’s only networking meeting placed the following signs “Behind every successful man is a surprised woman”. The pointing out of this as inappropriate was met with the female boss of our office saying- if you don’t like it you can leave. My male friend at Ernst & Young wanted to bring a female client to a company sanctioned women’s only event where they were treated to a fashion boutique and spa treatements. The client was welcome, my friend was informed he was not. From education to health care the littany of anti-male, sexist exclusionary practices are in dire need of being addressed. Thank you for your time.

]]> By: Anna http://www.feministsdontbakebread.com/2007/03/08/sincerely-what-about-the-men/#comment-520 Anna Fri, 09 Mar 2007 01:55:55 +0000 http://www.feministsdontbakebread.com/2007/03/08/sincerely-what-about-the-men/#comment-520 I completely agree with you, on all points. At the moment, though, I'm getting a lot of flack from friends (and not!friends) that I'm not paying enough attention to the men. *sigh* So, I'm encouraging them to say something themselves, because I'm not interested in writing about that. I hate the implication that in writing about half of the population, I'm somehow blind to the issues of the other half. {I am also incredibly bemused by the fact that I have to approve my own comments.} I completely agree with you, on all points.

At the moment, though, I’m getting a lot of flack from friends (and not!friends) that I’m not paying enough attention to the men. *sigh* So, I’m encouraging them to say something themselves, because I’m not interested in writing about that.

I hate the implication that in writing about half of the population, I’m somehow blind to the issues of the other half.

{I am also incredibly bemused by the fact that I have to approve my own comments.}

]]> By: Becky http://www.feministsdontbakebread.com/2007/03/08/sincerely-what-about-the-men/#comment-519 Becky Fri, 09 Mar 2007 01:52:22 +0000 http://www.feministsdontbakebread.com/2007/03/08/sincerely-what-about-the-men/#comment-519 Discrimination against women has been a pervasive historical force in society and cultures FOREVER. Sexism is all about discrimination against women. And that is where the focus should remain and not be distracted by claims of male discrimination. On the other hand I do believe there have been corrective forces which have resulted at times in men being treated unfairly. For example--I do not think it is necessary for the sitcoms to act like all men are total dolts, I do not think they always get a fair shake in divorce courts. But Sexism as a problem is an ongoing pervasive problem which women must deal with on a daily basis. The discrimination against the members of what is still the ruling class in our patriarchal societie should not be encouraged and it should be eliminated--but it is not a central historical pervasive theme. ~Becky Discrimination against women has been a pervasive historical force in society and cultures FOREVER. Sexism is all about discrimination against women.

And that is where the focus should remain and not be distracted by claims of male discrimination.

On the other hand I do believe there have been corrective forces which have resulted at times in men being treated unfairly. For example–I do not think it is necessary for the sitcoms to act like all men are total dolts, I do not think they always get a fair shake in divorce courts.

But Sexism as a problem is an ongoing pervasive problem which women must deal with on a daily basis.

The discrimination against the members of what is still the ruling class in our patriarchal societie should not be encouraged and it should be eliminated–but it is not a central historical pervasive theme.

~Becky

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